I know what you mean. I searched long and hard for these. Believe me, these aren't some cheapo copies. They are actually made in Taiwan (a step up from Chinese made)

The Halos are super bright and make a complete circle. The LED's are subtle and the color matches the Halos. I much prefer OEM quality, but like these over the '08 lamps.[/quote]
Agreed on the '08 lamps. I dont like them or their taillights. Maybe it was the color car I saw them on that turned me off. It was Navy (LOL) and it was dusk and he was using the stock bulbs till his HIDs came in. I haven't seen him since then tho.
And Taiwanese made products are better than Chinese? I'll keep that in mind. SO much to look for when buying aftermarket stuff. Good thing I'm broke and have time to learn this stuff!