Talk about a bad economy

[CiscoInATc]

ALSO now that i went a few post back, AMERICANS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT POVERTY IS (some do....sorry) Do you know what it is to live in metal sheds, under a hot sun in 90 degree weather, when food is out of your reach and if it is its spoiled or bad tasting with NO end in sight. There are millions of people like this everyday, some in even worse conditions, and most people don't care at all.

I hope everyone finds work in their field, but i am no where near panicked... good luck everyone

[CiscoInATc]

Wow 4 posts in a row, nice :P. What pisses me off the most is how the national debt is at what? 7 trillion now? And people praise Obama for it. Yet when Bush got the national debt to 1.2 trillion, Obama inherited some MASSIVE debt. Obama has taken the highest ever debt of the country and made it almost 6 times worse... And it only took him a month.

What do you guys/gals think about the $8,000,000 in the stimulus plan for researching the growth patterns of the grape?

.000001 of the budget, not to mention how many people it employ's... and help feed people.....its money spent for a reason... Many people think that insect research is a waste of money, but its actually important.

[chyz-dad]

In regards to the post stating AMERICANS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT POVERTY IS...

when I was in high school my freshman year my family and I lived in the salvation army and in a mission.....and for any one to say that there is no way for them to get out of that situation...I say BULLS**T.....I have personally been at the bottom of the barrel, and I have made it a mission to never go back there again. Enough on that one.

I may have been alive for only 36 years, but I am no idiot. When a government goes into a business of any kind and says flat out....either you let us take control of what u r doing or we will let you fail...for me that is nothing more then a socialist mentality and can come to no good ending. BTW does any one here realize that the extra 10 - 20 bucks that we are all receiving now will be a form of control come tax season next year. YAY we're getting more money now...wrong...just means more you have to pay out next year because you're now in a new tax bracket...oops they forgot to tell you that didn't they. Oh and the new police group that OBAMA is putting together....some are calling them the brown shirts....roll back to WWII and read up on the brown shirts....not to say they may be like the brown shirts of the Nazi regime, but just keep an eye out.

Wow...I need to cool down...all I can say with a certain amount of disdain is that I truely hope that all the people who voted for OBAMA are right...because if he fails then the nation will fall into an era that we will never recover from.

[CiscoInATc]

Some people know what its like, i am not saying everyone doesn't, but most people don't really see how low the line can go...i don't know if its denial or ignorance.... Your right there is a lot so shady stuff going on, who knows.... We're all screwed, but you can only be optimistic.

[chyz-dad]

I pulled from a site that got updated on the 20th...
Obama's vision of a domestic security force "just as strong, just as well funded as our military" ( and presumbly loyal to him personally) just got a lot closer.

The House of representatives has just passed HR 1388 otherwise known as the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education (GIVE) Act. This reauthorizes through 2014 the National and Community Service Act of 1990 and the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973, acts that originally, among other programs, funded the AmeriCorps and the National Senior Service Corps.

However, it not only reauthorizes the programs, but also includes "new programs and studies" and an allocation of $6 billion over the next five years, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

When you look at the language of the bill closely,it gets even more interesting.The bill specifically mentions possibilities if "all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service."

If these requirements were made mandatory, the bill says it "would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds."

And it mentions "The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives."

Those groups of volunteers would according to the bill, be "grouped together as appropriate in campuses for operational, support, and boarding purposes. The Corps campus for a unit shall be in a facility or central location established as the operational headquarters and boarding place for the unit. … There shall be a superintendent for each camp."

Take a minute to think about the implications of all this, given the sort of person who's in the White House.

All of these things were hidden away within the 200 pages of legislation..and the bill itself was mainly billed as federal support for establishing the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks on America as "a National Day of Service and Remembrance."

Some of the smarter boys like Duncan Hunter weren't fooled, but a number of others were..and the bill passed with an enthusiastic yes from every Democrat who's been on record as consistently voting against anything to do with our military or national security...Neil Abercrombie, John Conyers, Jim McDermott,George Miller, Jim Moran, Nancy Pelosi..and of course Keith Ellison.The whole crew was there, unfortunately joined by a number of people who I expected would know better.

Paranoid? Perhaps, but this bears close watching.Why spend six bil on this just now?

At this point, I don't trust the current occupant of the White House in the least. But you can't say I didn't give him a chance.



Now I am an optimistic individual...I have all the belief in my country....I however have little to no belief in the current head of the country...I find it hard to sink my trust into someone who for all intense and purpose DEMANDS subjugation over his peers and the nation...this will not do for me

[CiscoInATc]

...typical... I am definitely open to the idea of national volunteer work, but if its mandatory that slavery in a nutshell.

[Nathanr.6168]

.000001 of the budget, not to mention how many people it employ's... and help feed people.....its money spent for a reason... Many people think that insect research is a waste of money, but its actually important.

Yes its its actually more like .00001% of the projected budget for his anticipated 8 years of office. As he said on TV/radio last week, he plans on raising the national defect another 9 trillion by the end of his term in office. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn'[t that make the national defect about 11-12 trillion? Didn't Obama supposedly inherit the worst national defect in national history? (proportionately the great depression created a MUCH worse national defect) Why is it, that he can say he is doing this to help the future generations, when he will be making things 10 times harder on the next president? (1.2 trillion compared to 11-12 trillion) To make matters worse he is lowering the value of the dollar by printing more dollars. And he had the nerve to say that the value of the dollar is very strong right now (from the speech last week).

I do not appreciate a president who intentionally lies to us. I do not respect Osama... Opps I mean Obama

[chyz-dad]

I do not appreciate a president who intentionally lies to us. I do not respect Osama... Opps I mean Obama

now that was funny

[CiscoInATc]

whoa... my number was a complete guess lol.

[Nathanr.6168]

WOOT!!!! Go Obama for printing money and lowering the value of a dollar!!!!

[chyz-dad]

talk about that.....about 3-4 weeks ago a friend of my told me the an economist friend of his was looking thru the Wall Street Journal.....as he was doing so he noticed one very small yet very large piece of information.

The WSJ would print how much money the mint had produced in a day....they took this information out of the WSJ.....now why would they do that????
They - the Mint - were printing money like crazy and flooding the country with it....by having to much money in circulation devalues the dollar.......

Obviously we really can't point our fingure at Mr. Obama.....just the government.............ooooops he is the gonvernment

[CiscoInATc]

As far as my understanding of economics goes i think we are screwed, but i have confidence that the right moves are being made if everyone just worked together... Are debt is bad because of all the printing but i hope that due to all this spending now, we will make jobs and level this slump of an economy.