Weapon R Vs. DC Headers

**Admir** · Thu., Feb 14, 2008

Oki I cant decide if i want to get the Weapon*R 4-2-1 Race Header Long Tube or the DC Headers? The weapon R does like nicer and is a 4-2-1 setup. The DC headers are just cheaper. I want my engine bay to look nice but try to get the most power. Also i'm getting the HKS HI Power exhaust but don't want it to be raspy... Thanks

**Soulbane** · Fri., Feb 15, 2008

Headers for the most part, are less of an overall HP gaining modification as they are a modification that re-allocates your torque band.

Managing outflowing exhaust pressure is a large factor in torque management.

**Mengsta** · Fri., Feb 15, 2008

Well i would say MMW headers, but i have it, and it has a nasty rattle, plus fitment was horrible. Though performance seems a bit better since its 4-2-1 and there is less rasp that you would get in a typical 4-1.

**navylife59** · Sat., Feb 16, 2008

Soulbane is correct. NA is not going to see much HP gain as compared what a FI engine is going to realize with a header swap. Don't worry, you will notice the difference w/o the primary 3-way cat. The OEM header is also a very short 4-1. The runners are too short to take advantage of the scavenging effect of a 4-2-1. Assuming that the 4-2-1 header runners are of the proper length to take advantage of this, you will have a more positive off throttle response. The torque band will better match the torque curve designed in the engine.

**Mengsta** · Thu., Mar 20, 2008

Wait we have 3 cats? I only see 2 hehe

**Vmix06** · Thu., Mar 20, 2008

isnt the DC headers a 4-1 even though they say its a 4-2-1

**bdis3** · Fri., Mar 21, 2008

Yes, DC is only a 4-1. Weapon-r is a true 4-2-1 tho. I just put them on this week and love them!

**navylife59** · Fri., Mar 21, 2008

Originally Posted by Mengsta

Wait we have 3 cats? I only see 2 hehe

The primary cat is a 3-way cat. The secondary cat is just a standard cat. 2 is all there is.

**ac3 b00gi3** · Fri., Mar 21, 2008

Weapon R bro
4-2-1 is better than 4-1
more toque

**bdis3** · Fri., Mar 21, 2008

Love my Weapon-R. They are loud tho.

**ac3 b00gi3** · Fri., Mar 21, 2008

i love noise

my neighbors don't tho .. good think t/c cars are low deep toned

**Mengsta** · Fri., Mar 21, 2008

WEll its only low and deep with a 4-2-1 and a pretty good axleback, ive heard some pretty ****ty tc's. I dont wanna hate but it was a guy with a hks axleback and a DC header with the old tsudo midpipe consisting of a 16" resonator.

**ac3 b00gi3** · Sat., Mar 22, 2008

uh oh .. that duz sound like trouble .. i hate tC's that sound ricey .. kinda makes me feel bad

lol

**Soulbane** · Sat., Mar 22, 2008

Bleh, I hate loud noises.

I just slapped the silencer on my GReddy axle back.

Looking for the right set up for a custom mid pipe, not sure which two sized resonators to go with.

Then it's Invidia S Pipe, Weapon R headers.

But all these mods happen after handling =D

**Mengsta** · Sun., Mar 23, 2008

O yeah... Ive done the I/H/E/P crap, and getting suspension mods have better bang for the buck, unless u only use yur car to drive straight.. Now i know, if i do get a next car, what to get first.

**Soulbane** · Sun., Mar 23, 2008

For sure.

Handling is always more important than power.

**ac3 b00gi3** · Mon., Mar 24, 2008

yeap .. i'll do suspension first for sure on my next car

**Soulbane** · Mon., Mar 24, 2008

What's the next car going to be?

**ac3 b00gi3** · Mon., Mar 24, 2008

uhhh .. its tuff .. DEFINETLY lookin at the Evo 9 MR

**Soulbane** · Tue., Mar 25, 2008

Just get a Scooby.

=D

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