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This is a discussion on besides turbo / supercharger within the Engine Performance forums, part of the Scion tC category; alright guys what can i add and do to my engine for better performance, pick up, etc. if i dont ...

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    alright guys what can i add and do to my engine for better performance, pick up, etc. if i dont plan on putting a turbo or supercharger? dont get me wrong if i had the money i would do it but with a baby on the way i cant spend too much on the car anymore. thanks in advance.
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    Well, yet again has my craptastic Dell and MicroSuck OS let me down and ruined my post, so here goes a shorten version 2.0

    Beyond a full 2.25" custom exhaust and a CAI intake, these are the parts that you can install.
    1. LW crank pulley (can also get an underdriven pulley but not recommended )
    2. LW waterpump pulley
    3. LW alternator pulley (Can get also get a 20% underdrive version but not recommened if you have a large electrical load aka I.C.E.)
    4. LW flywheel
    5. Brian Crower Stage 2 N/A cams
    6. Port and Polish head work (expensive)
    7. ZEX Wet Nitrous System
    8. Brian Crower 2.6L stroker kit (expensive)
    9. With cams and/or headwork, a piggyback controller might work out a few more ponies. 10WHP max is the assumed number. Only effective for WOT.
    10. If upgraded cams and headwork, you could install 440cc injectors used for the TRD S/C and net more power. Only a possibility with an expensive parallel piggyback or full stand-alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navylife59 View Post
    Well, yet again has my craptastic Dell and MicroSuck OS let me down and ruined my post, so here goes a shorten version 2.0

    Beyond a full 2.25" custom exhaust and a CAI intake, these are the parts that you can install.
    1. LW crank pulley (can also get an underdriven pulley but not recommended )
    2. LW waterpump pulley
    3. LW alternator pulley (Can get also get a 20% underdrive version but not recommened if you have a large electrical load aka I.C.E.)
    4. LW flywheel
    5. Brian Crower Stage 2 N/A cams
    6. Port and Polish head work (expensive)
    7. ZEX Wet Nitrous System
    8. Brian Crower 2.6L stroker kit (expensive)
    9. With cams and/or headwork, a piggyback controller might work out a few more ponies. 10WHP max is the assumed number. Only effective for WOT.
    10. If upgraded cams and headwork, you could install 440cc injectors used for the TRD S/C and net more power. Only a possibility with an expensive parallel piggyback or full stand-alone.
    ok i have an automatic so some of those things i know i cant use like flywheel so what out of that list can i use or do i need to switch it up because i have automatic?
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    Only the flywheel won't relate to your auto. Your good on all the rest.
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    ok i was cheking out those parts on line like all the light weight pulley's and all of them say under drive or over drive is there another name i can look it up under? or which of the 2 should i get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by navylife59 View Post
    Well, yet again has my craptastic Dell and MicroSuck OS let me down and ruined my post, so here goes a shorten version 2.0

    Beyond a full 2.25" custom exhaust and a CAI intake, these are the parts that you can install.
    1. LW crank pulley (can also get an underdriven pulley but not recommended )
    2. LW waterpump pulley
    3. LW alternator pulley (Can get also get a 20% underdrive version but not recommened if you have a large electrical load aka I.C.E.)
    4. LW flywheel
    5. Brian Crower Stage 2 N/A cams
    6. Port and Polish head work (expensive)
    7. ZEX Wet Nitrous System
    8. Brian Crower 2.6L stroker kit (expensive)
    9. With cams and/or headwork, a piggyback controller might work out a few more ponies. 10WHP max is the assumed number. Only effective for WOT.
    10. If upgraded cams and headwork, you could install 440cc injectors used for the TRD S/C and net more power. Only a possibility with an expensive parallel piggyback or full stand-alone.
    on # 9 whats a WOT?
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    WOT = Wide Open Throttle = Gas Pedal Pressed To The Floor

    I'm lookin at this list and takin notes as things I'm gonna do for my car to get her down the street faster.

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    For all of your abbreviated needs
    You will need to contact NST and ask them for a standard LW pulley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navylife59 View Post
    For all of your abbreviated needs
    You will need to contact NST and ask them for a standard LW pulley.
    lol your a badass thanks but whats NST cause its not on the list
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    just want to clarify i will be buying the 3 lightweight pulleys alternator, crank and water pump. would it be ok if i installed them before i installed the bc cam and stroker kit? also when it comes to the light weights whats better the agency or nst?
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    NST is a brand name.

    Agency and NST are both anodized, which prevents them from rusting. Either should be fine, I forget which ones Navy has on his ride.

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    ok the only thing i can find online is an OBX Underdrive crank pulley and an OBX Overdrive altenator and water pump pulley would all 3 of those work together or not because one is under and the other is over? mostly all the crank pulleys ive found are underdrive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE-tC View Post
    ok the only thing i can find online is an OBX Underdrive crank pulley and an OBX Overdrive altenator and water pump pulley would all 3 of those work together or not because one is under and the other is over? mostly all the crank pulleys ive found are underdrive...
    do i have to get a new belt too?
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    one more thing i know the alternator pulley is if you are running a bunch of electrical which i wont be so would i be alright just getting the light weight crank instead of all 3?
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    how much for new cams? LW pullys? and how long of an install are they? and what WHP gains would you be looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxhockeyxlx View Post
    how much for new cams? LW pullys? and how long of an install are they? and what WHP gains would you be looking at?
    the BC cams are like 500-600

    LW pulley from NST is 118 each

    install im not sure

    im not exactly sure what the gains are exactly but navy and cadence should know. they are the ones helping me and so far my ride is bomb
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    Quote Originally Posted by navylife59 View Post
    Well, yet again has my craptastic Dell and MicroSuck OS let me down and ruined my post, so here goes a shorten version 2.0

    Beyond a full 2.25" custom exhaust and a CAI intake, these are the parts that you can install.
    1. LW crank pulley (can also get an underdriven pulley but not recommended )
    2. LW waterpump pulley
    3. LW alternator pulley (Can get also get a 20% underdrive version but not recommened if you have a large electrical load aka I.C.E.)
    4. LW flywheel
    5. Brian Crower Stage 2 N/A cams
    6. Port and Polish head work (expensive)
    7. ZEX Wet Nitrous System
    8. Brian Crower 2.6L stroker kit (expensive)
    9. With cams and/or headwork, a piggyback controller might work out a few more ponies. 10WHP max is the assumed number. Only effective for WOT.
    10. If upgraded cams and headwork, you could install 440cc injectors used for the TRD S/C and net more power. Only a possibility with an expensive parallel piggyback or full stand-alone.
    can i run the cams without the stroker kit?
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    Yes. You can run one or the other. Neither is required for the other but more power can be had with both.
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    If you upgrade your pullies, I would upgrade the belt to a Good Year Gatorback. Best belts on the market. NST has a package on their website, which I am going to get which contains the water pump and alternator pulley.
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    You must be reading my playbook. Hey, no peeking.

    I have the pullies. They are great. The Gatorback belt was the only belt that I could get that stop my belt slip problem with my 15 PSI pulley. So far, it appears to be holding tight for over a month now.
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