any 1 ever hear of the megan racing axle back exhaust?

[mikeman030888]

I'm in the market for a new exhaust system for my 2007 tc something like stock axle back exaust but with a lil more power to it and sound and I found a megan racing axle back exaust and was wondering if any 1 has a review on this? cuz I was looking at trd exaust but one of my co workers has it and it decently loud but I kinda wanna b louder but still have the easy axle back install

[CadenceScion]

Megan isn't known for having the best products and I wouldn't waste my time or money on them. Their customer service is least to be desired as well. I'd rather see you go with a Magnaflow, TRD, or Borla. Me personally, I am not a huge fan of canister aka Fart Can Muffers, too loud and obnoxious sounding. Ask around on the site and see what Navy says, but I am sure others will tell you the same as well.

[stonerboi27]

after doing my research, i am planning to go with the dezod n/a exhaust. its a bit pricey but its all around a good exhaust(from what ive seen). looks fairly stock, frees restrictions, and it sounds better than the trd axle back imo. its a full exhaust so it may take more time to install, but then again you get better airflow(than the trd), and great sound.
Dezod Motorsports. Dezod Motorsports N/A Stainless Steel S-Pipe-Back Exhaust System-tC 05+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-BCG...1FFCD&index=12

[navylife59]

That would be a full cat-back exhaust with the secondary cat delete, hence, the rougher growl over that of the TRD axle-back. You might want to check your local emission laws as you might find yourself in violation w/o the secondary cat. If you have gone aftermarket with your header, then you will effectively have no catalytic converter in your exhaust as the primary TWC is in the header. You can always contact Dezod and see if they can add a high-flow, metallic cat to it or have a local exhaust shop add it. The car will run fine without it. It is just a legal issue.

One thing that I did notice. The muffler appears to be a Magna-flow. Also the picture shows 100% polished SS, but the one in the U-Tub vid shows a non-polished SS unit. You might want to inquire about this before you purchase if you like it shiny for show. A large majority of these smaller companies display polished, but ship it virgin (no polish) or cheap plating as in the case of Megan Racing's products.
Below is a picture of their shoddy craftsmanship (China). I know firsthand.
Megan S-pipe2.JPG

BTW: It is always hard to tell the actual sound of an exhaust because of the variables of the sound environment, equipment, user error, compression algorithm, and the sound reproduction gear (aka PC speakers). From the sound of the clip, I find that the TRD exhaust (that I had) sounds deeper. Only a firsthand account of the Dezod unit can a real comparison be made. Dezod is known for some decent stuff so this unit might just be what your looking for.

[stonerboi27]

^ so you're saying i should be good as far as emissions since the dezod kit comes with the secondary cat?

also, i dont mind the unpolished look.. well if it looks like the pic i posted at least. but if it'll someday look like the megan pipe(as you posted), well thats a big no no.. in anyones book lol

all in all, i think the dezod kit is one of the best cat back systems for a n/a tC. even if gains may be minimal, i personally wouldnt want to invest in an axle back which yields close to no gains at all, despite the deep sound. the dezod kit is the only cat back(that ive found so far) that has a stock look as well as a good sound. it simply meets all my requirements.. or we can assume so. =)

[navylife59]

No, the Dezod unit does NOT come with a cat. It completely removes the secondary cat and therefore would cause you not to pass a visual inspection. It should, however, still be able to pass a sniffer test.

FYI, there is no exhaust out there that can make much in the gains of HP and TQ on any small displacement N/A engine without alot of mods to the engine.

[stonerboi27]

uggh well that might be a problem... i'll look more into it before i get it i guess. thanks for the info.

and yea i know gains will be minimal.. but i'd much rather get a cat back just on principal. little gain > no gain.

[navylife59]

More to the point that for N/A, you should just choose exhaust based on the quality, looks, and sound as apposed to performance gains. The bottle necks in the stock exhaust could be listed in order of severity.
1. Header (primary TWC)
2. S-pipe
3. Muffler
4. mid-pipe (secondary TWC)
5. mid-pipe (resonator)
6. exhaust piping

If you do plan on lowering your car beyond the TRD 1.6" drop, then you might want to consider the expense of a custom SS exhaust. The reason being is getting the s-pipe and the axle-back/muffler tucked up as much as possible. You cannot get this from a pre-made part as they purposely make it hang like OEM to avoid complaints of vibrations. A true-fab shop can build you a close tolerance hanged exhaust that will not exhibit any interference with the body.

The Meagan Racing S-pipe hung down so low that it bottomed out alot, the DC Sports header did not make use of the lower OEM header mount causing leaks, and the ZPI mid-pipe fit improperly that it actually rubbed against the fuel tank heatshield. The following are pics from the custom exhaust tuck that I was speaking of. Notice how tight the s-pipe is. This was the final mockup. The finished product had the s-pipe wrapped and a flexible joint added at the beginning of the mid-pipe.
Resonator 1.0.JPG

[CadenceScion]

Now here's one that I hear from time to time and want you guys opinions, true or false that a duel exhaust on a Scion tC or a 4cylinder is pointless and can cause a loss in HP/Torque, compression and backpressure? I have seen quite a few cars on Cardomain.com and a few tC's sporting duel exhaust, it looks rather sick IMO, but I am not sure if its really necessary or their hurting themselves more than what its helping them.

[stonerboi27]

i guess it depends on the size of the downpipe to get the necessary flow in conjunction with back pressure... esp if its n/a.

to be honest though i think it looks riced out. unless its like an audi a4 that comes stock with duals, its just as ridiculous as putting duals exhausts on a civic imo. as far as street credit goes, i think the average person would call it rice. even if its heavily modded, it should still remain single, just as supras, older skylines etc... but esp for a 4 banger.

[CadenceScion]

I do have to admit it does look ricey but cool, but it still puzzles me how both the Tiburon GT 6 cylinder and Tiburon SE 4 cylinder gets away with it. Unless they are doing a CAT-back duel with a x/y pipe. I have no intentions of making my tC duel that is for sure.

[navylife59]

A true dual exhaust on a 4 cylinder would involve the primaries of two opposing cylinders dumping into a single collector for each set of two. These two collectors would then have two separate pipes that lead to two mufflers and exits. There would be a definite drop in low end torque and high end RPM response. Ontop of all that, it was sound two fat guys sitting cheek to cheek cracking but.

On the flipside of this, running a dual exhaust axle-back can not only provide for meaner looks, but can give a better flowing exhaust with a nice sound. The benefits would be the same as a single axle-back. The xB Gen2's have an optional dual exhaust outlet.

[CadenceScion]

Thank you, I wasn't 100% sure, but now it makes more logical sence.

[navylife59]

Look up exhaust cylinder scavaging. To an extent, the inverse applies to the intake side thru pulsation. Scavaging is the reasoning behind a 4-2-1 and a 4-1 header and why the 4-2-1 header makes more low-end torque/ 4-1 makes more HP at high RPM. just with intakes and cams, it is a give/take system of physics.

[Jay666]

I'm in the market for a new exhaust system for my 2007 tc something like stock axle back exaust but with a lil more power to it and sound and I found a megan racing axle back exaust and was wondering if any 1 has a review on this? cuz I was looking at trd exaust but one of my co workers has it and it decently loud but I kinda wanna b louder but still have the easy axle back install

I have the Megan. I didn't know until after I got it that it was ill advised by many people. I was a newbie.

So far, no complaints honestly. I know it's considered a crap brand, and I am not one to buy crap for my car (spent around 10 K last year alone), but I've have zero problems. The fit was good, It's still rust free, & surprisingly, it actually sounds great. Has a nice deep sound. My only complaint is that it's actually TOO loud. I know that anything will be loud when you have a cat back and a header, but man, this thing is LOUD. Nice low tone, but wow, LOUD. Almost sounds like a 6 cyl.

Anyways, I plan on switching to a Magna Flow, simply because I have had a year and a half to learn and etc. Megan is not exactly a reputible brand, where as Magna Flow is top notch. I've also had a chance to drive on a Magna Flow since then and it's much less anyoningly loud. More controlled and smooth sounding.

Bottom line, Megan is not reputible. There are much better out there. But, I've had zero problems.

[CadenceScion]

I am going to have to agree with you on the Magnaflow, and say stay away from Megan. Don't go on ClubSciontC.com and say Megan is garbage, you'll be laughed at and told your in idiot. IMO an exhaust should sound nice, low and deep, but when it sounds like a chainsaw on steroids, it gets to be too much. Then again other people prefer " Rice ", not me thank you! =)

[navylife59]

The Megan axle-back has been the only surprisingly decent product that they make. Still, the MagnaFlow would be a better unit.

[Jay666]

It's the only product I own by them, and respectively the only upgrade I have that's not top notch. Lesson learned.

But I can see your point. It's honestly pretty good. But as I said, I do plan on switching to Magnaflow. I think that's the best for the money. Only like $200 more. Well worth it.