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TRD s/c and CAI equal detonation?????

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    Default TRD s/c and CAI equal detonation?????

    i called the sparks toyota yesterday to order my supercharger and the guy told me if i was planning on running a cold air intake with it i would run way too lean and blow my $h!t up??? i told him i was planning on putting a piggyback on it and he told me it doesnt matter.. can some body plz give me some answers. im plannig on getting it dyno tuned as soon as i get it. and he told me that there is no way possible to ge the pulley off without destroying the supercharger??? load of bull??? maybe.

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    If you are doing to tune it with a piggy back, detonation will not be an issue. As long as it is tuned correctly.

    You can get the pulley off. take it somewhere and have them weld a nut onto the the amper proof bolt. Then put a socket on the nut and take it off.
    Or weld it yourself for free if you have the equipment.
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    ok thats what i was thinking about the piggy back and i will have to find a place to get it dyno tuned. cause i know nothing about ecu's lol. i will have to take it somewhere to get it welded i dont have any welding equipment available. hopefully the place i take it will know what there doing lol.

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    That welding a nut on the pulley is a good idea.

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    do they make an intercooler kit for the trd s/c???

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    There is none made for it. But it can be done. Its not efficient. I would reccomend a barrel cooler, or water/meth injection.
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    hmm neither of those im familiar with or for that fact even heard of it lol.

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    The CAI is not going to make your car run lean at the stock 7PSI. I ran a short ram on mine for a long time with no problems, even at 9PSI. When Kenny Tran tuned mine, he said it was running leaner than he would have liked. He stated that a honda motor would have rattled apart, but Toyota engines are so well controlled and de-tuned a bit for reliability. If you look at the OEM air box, you will find that is a CAI intake already.

    The problem that I can see is if you improperly set-up your short/CAI intake. The MAF is calibrated to measure the flow of air past its sensor. Part of its calibration parameters is the diameter of the pipe and the distance the MAF is from the TB. A 4" diameter pipe or having the MAF too close to the TB could cause you to go lean enough to knock.

    Just a side note, I had the Greddy Ultimate wired but null on all the maps. There should have been no performance change but their was. I firmly believe that the Greddy actually leaned out my motor causing the ECM to pull back timing. That is why I had such dismal performance after I installed it. It is now tuned and in trim thank to Jotech.
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    so you wouldnt suggest getting a greedy ecm/piggy back? what does TB stand for lol?

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    oh ps where do you live i might have to make the trip down there to get my car tuned up the closest chasis dyno is 124 miles away from me. especially if the guy is as good as you say he is.. thanks

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    Kenny Tran is one of the best there is, especially for the Scion tC. He won the NOPI Nats in Dallas and has the fastest ET for a street chassis tC. No the 2AZ-FE mind you, but still a full bodied tC from the firewall back. I helped him load onto his trailer at his shop, Jotech Racing. It is located in Garland, Texas (my Hometown) on the East side of Dallas. His shop also built the 500HP Nitto tC.
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    TB stands for Throttle Body. It is like a carburetor for a fuel injected system. It controls the amount of air entering the lower intake manifold and thusly, the engine. The 2AZ-FE is drive-by-wire technology (no cable). This can easily be seen by looking at the arm of the gas pedal.
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    wow awesome thanks i will be looking up mr. Tran fo sho as soon as i get my s/c and some other pulleys : ) thanks ..

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    i checked out his site and i looked at customer rides and i saw ur car. he does some crazy stuff im gonna go there for sure. thanks again.

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    Kenny will tune your car to the maximum amount possible, yet stay safe and reliable. He will give you an aggresive tune on request but you will get alot of warnings that goes with it. His philosopy is why blow a motor just to prove something. Makes perfect sense. He doesn't have much affinity for dyno-queens.
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