i need s/c help

[KTeevan]

okay, so i REALLY wanna supercharge my car, but my only question is, can i run the 9.5 psi pulley on a bone stock motor? i dont really wanna put any money into the motor just yet. im going to eventually, but i just want to put the trd kit in now. any suggestions on what to do for like 00 to make my car faster.

[navylife59]

You can easily run 9~10PSI on the TRD S/C with stock motor and just the TRD maps with no problems. Expect around 210~220WHP with header and axle-back. I am running 14.5PSI on a stock motor with a greddy ultimate and a few other mods.

[Jay666]

Are you saying that you get around 210-220 WHP with just header and axleback, or header, axelback AND pully?

I have header and catback (also CAI) and thought that would put me around 180-190, so I'm a bit confused.

[navylife59]

Product claims in horse power (HP) are usually Brake horse power (BHP) measured at the flywheel. A few others take actual measurement at the wheels (WHP) which are the figures that I stated. They sometimes do dyno runs on that read higher than others and the cars may already have some other power adder on them. A few do it right with a standard dyno on a standard day with a completely OEM vehicle. This is why the claim such HP increase. Of course with others marketing the same product, you got to keep up with the numbers to sell.

[Jay666]

Yeah, that's pretty confusing. I guess really the best thing for me to do is take it somewhere and have it dyno'd and see what comes out.

I was guessing at around 190 with TRD CAI, Weapon R header and Meagan Catback. But I guess that is just that, a guess...

What does is generally cost to have someone put a car on a dyno?

[bdis3]

Well if your running a CAI with a supercharger Ive been told you'll have to get tuned, because you'll lean out. and dyno time is expensive. It all depends on where you go. I started with the whole supercharger thing, but i'm ditching it and going turbo. Just a word for the wise. Its awesome to keep the warranty, but I want some more power. for the price of S/C, intake, header, exhaust, tune, install, you can get a nice turbo kit. Just my $.02

[Jay666]

I'll price around for Dyno after winter.

I thought you could not have a SC and a CAI at the same time? I'm confused. I was told by someone at the Toyota dealer that if I put a SC in, the CAI came out...

Someone please explain to my dumb a**

I hear what you're saying about the Turbo vs the SC. I guess it depends on what you want and what you're plans are, just like everything else.

I'd love the extra power given by a Turbo, but I don't really have a use for an insane amount of power like that. Somone like me would probably just melt my engine lol.

Also, from what I've heard and read, the TRD SC is a pretty significant power boost, more than what it's actually said to be by TRD (obviously not as much as a Turbo, but still more than TRD said it was). For someone like me who wants more power, but not going crazy, it's probably sufficient.

Also, I'm not skilled enough to do that job myself. If I get the TRD SC, they can put it in for me, save me a lot of headache, and like you mentioned, I have the warranty to go with it. I'd be too afraid of screwing something up with an aftermarket turbo, or melting my engine lol.

[bdis3]

no, you cant use them together, but you can easily make one, but the weapon-r one, or modify your existing one. but yeah in your case, the supercharger would be perfect. I have an unused 9.5psi pullet and belt for a 2008. also an unused autometer c2 boost gauge if you want them. Ill give em to you real cheap.

[Jay666]

I'm confused about the Weapon R CAI... Is that one designed to work or fit with a SC unit? If that's the case, I would def get one (when I eventually get the SC). I currently have the TRD CAI...

I am interested in what you have. Which pulley are you offering, the crank pulley I'm assuming? What brand? I had my eye on the NST Pulley Kit for the future...

Can you elaborate on what gauge that is you're talking about? Not sure if that will apply for me yet...

You mentioned you are canning your SC. What brand, and how old????

We can talk offline more if you like.

[bdis3]

Weapon R does make an intake just for the supercharger. I have the nst 9.5psi pulley for the supercharger. I also have gates belt for the pulley for the 08 (maybe 07) models. The gauge I have is an Autometer boost gauge. But yeah I'm selling my whole set up probably later this month (november). Pm me if you have any questions.

[Jay666]

I'm still learning. What would an Autometer boost gague be exactly...

The NST pulley you're talking about for the SC, this is a separate pull specifically for the SC? Sort of confused by what you mean. Because the kit I had my eye on was this one:
https://www.wesellcarparts.com/store...dCategory=2450

And I don't see anything that specifies being "for" the supercharger.

[Jay666]

Weapon R does make an intake just for the supercharger. I have the nst 9.5psi pulley for the supercharger. I also have gates belt for the pulley for the 08 (maybe 07) models. The gauge I have is an Autometer boost gauge. But yeah I'm selling my whole set up probably later this month (november). Pm me if you have any questions.

Is this the CAI that works with the SC by WR you're talking about? It's called TRD Supercharged, but does not have anything in the description different that the normal unit. I assume it is, just wanna be sure 'cause this is the first I've head that anyone makes a CAI that will work with a SC unit.

Weapon*R Racing Development

[bdis3]

Yeah, the weapon-r intake is specially mad for the TRD supercharger. and Autometer is just the brand of the gauge. The NST pulley is specially made to go on the supercharger. It is smaller, and lighter, so the supercharger creates more boost which = more power.

[Jay666]

Ahhhhhhhhh, I got ya...

I've made a note on that Weapon R CAI and added to my list of things to get. (of course, only after I get the SC). That is pure genius though. The only ones making a CAI for the SC...

So that gague simply measures the extra boost created by your SC then, correct?

Where did you find the NST SC pulley? This is a new to me and I don't see it on the NST wesbsite... What color is it???

[navylife59]

This is the S/C pulley. It has a light bronze (apparently red now)anodizing that you can see on NST's website. I would suggest buying the whole kit now. You CAN run all of the pullies, with exception of the S/C pulley, on you car before you install the TRD S/C. The only difference would be belt sizes. NST can give you both belts that are the correct size. Belts are expensive so you want the right one.

Note: You may have issue with dealer install on the S/C as they replace the stock crank pulley bolt for a longer one. What you would have to do is replace the OEM one back on when you drop the car off at dealer. Once they are finished and your positive that it is running good, then you can swap back.

[bdis3]

actually you can choose the color of the pulley. mine is black

[navylife59]

Darn, when they first offered them, it was in this blah bronze color.

[Jay666]

Attachment 1318
This is the S/C pulley. It has a light bronze (apparently red now)anodizing that you can see on NST's website. I would suggest buying the whole kit now. You CAN run all of the pullies, with exception of the S/C pulley, on you car before you install the TRD S/C. The only difference would be belt sizes. NST can give you both belts that are the correct size. Belts are expensive so you want the right one.

Note: You may have issue with dealer install on the S/C as they replace the stock crank pulley bolt for a longer one. What you would have to do is replace the OEM one back on when you drop the car off at dealer. Once they are finished and your positive that it is running good, then you can swap back.

Nice photo. You're a computer guy too, I see. Makes me envious.

Yeah, right after I posted my message I found the SC pulley on their site. I'm dumb...

That's exactly what my friend at the dealer was saying about the pulley's too. They'd give me a hard time for sure. I was thinking of just waiting to do all the pulley's until after I (eventually) get the SC, so I can just do the work once. Also, I heard doing these pulley's is a pain in the a**... No??

Regarding the belts, I assume the pulley kits do NOT include belts. You stated they are expensive (belts). I just spent 20 minutes on the NST site looking to price the belts needed, and all I find is a GUIDE to what belts are needed. Why does it seem so difficult to purchase the belts? Is there something I am missing here?

[Jay666]

Darn, when they first offered them, it was in this blah bronze color.

Yeah, they offer multipul colors now. Graphite (gray), red or black.

[Jay666]

Attachment 1318
This is the S/C pulley. It has a light bronze (apparently red now)anodizing that you can see on NST's website. I would suggest buying the whole kit now. You CAN run all of the pullies, with exception of the S/C pulley, on you car before you install the TRD S/C. The only difference would be belt sizes. NST can give you both belts that are the correct size. Belts are expensive so you want the right one.

Note: You may have issue with dealer install on the S/C as they replace the stock crank pulley bolt for a longer one. What you would have to do is replace the OEM one back on when you drop the car off at dealer. Once they are finished and your positive that it is running good, then you can swap back.

Found out another lovely piece of info from my friend at the dealer about this. I told him about our discussion with the LW SC pulley and he said that Toyota has a cap over the OEM pulley nut that is designed to shatter when removed. He said if there's a way anyone knows of removing this nut without shattering it, that will enable us to get the aftermarket pulley off and on without the dealer knowing, otherwise the warranty would be voided.

Does anyone know how to remove that nut without breaking it? Eventually, I will want a SC and this pulley, so this will be good info to know if anyone can share...