safety first!!

[chicotunner07]

So before i started dumpin all my money into rims and exhaust and all that other good stuff i decided to buy an alarm system, my old civic got stolen twice, and im 100 percent sure that an alarm could have prevented this!! I went with the Clifford G5 770 series, one of the best alarms out there, it cost me 350 with installation, i had to wait about 5 hours, but in the end it was worth it heres what it features!!

Proximity sensor
impact sensor
window shatter indicator
hood protection sensor
blue LED indicator
BlackJax security system
extended remote receptor

I can really leave my car and not worry about it, i have had bad experiences with my civic and friends of mine as well, and it wont be long before these sonsof*****es figure out how to take a tC, Im safe you guys should be too!!
heres some pics

[ThetC]

compustar here, nothing like it, and a very good investment

[chicotunner07]

yes indeed

[navylife59]

You just helped out any thieves who might know your car. Car alarms mean nothing if you ain't there to protect the car. A thief doesn't care if the alarm goes off because you just showed them how easy it is to disarm it. One trick is to set it off multiple times a night so that you will think it is malfunction and shut it off. They can use porcelin chips to crack your glass to pieces without making much of a sound. Your windows are probably tinted so that will completely muffle the sound for your glass-breakage detector. It only takes a few seconds to pop off that plastic panel and rip all the wiring out. If the alarm is a self-contained unit under the hood, no worries. The crook(s) will just pop the hood and easily destroy that unit. Ok, so you may have a secondary, self-contained backup siren, no worries. These guys wil just smash and grab all they can and be gone before you know it. You can't protect your call all of the time and they know this. They will hit you when your not looking. They don't care about the public because the public most likely do anything but watch. If they do have a little courage, they will just leave your car with a reminder of their visit and run off.

I tell you this to warn you. It comes from actual experience in the car alarm business back in the 1990's and yes, I too have been a victim. There is an entire book on how thieves can circumvent your security systems. All you can do is try to buy time till you or someone else can stop them. The mosre secure and secretive your installation, the longer it will stop them. Telling them what alarm you have helps them to defeat it better. Showing them where your components are at and how poorly the install is (wiring easily identified) just makes it so much easier. I won't go into the details of how easy it would be to pop your hood without setting the alarm off or how easy it would be to disable your secondary alarm and factory horns.

You need to change your install and don't let anyone know what you got. Even friends could be bragging about your ride and tip some unscrupulous person off without knowing it. You worked hard for your ride. Don't just give it away. If you would like some tips, I can PM them to you. You should also go ask for the your money back on the install because it looked pretty crappy.

[chicotunner07]

well my friend, thanx but no thanx, i do have a backup battery and i dont even know where its hidden and the mess of wires i showed u is not all of it, most of it is hidden under the dash, pullin wires wont do anything to shut the alarm, and i dont know what world u live in, but thieves are not superman or flash where they can open the door and pull out the system before it makes a beep and unless they know where that second battery or the secon siren is they cant do much, and even if all went wrong and they did manage to turn it on without makin a beep, the blackjax will simply leave them stranded half a block down the street with the alarm blarin at full blast, and last time i checked not all thieves make a living installing alarm, so thanx for the warning, but i feel safe and comfortable in my investment, you must have run into some hard-core thieves to feel the way u do!

[chicotunner07]

and to top the icing on the cake, we have good ol toyotas immobilizer system, but that i cant vouch for since i dont know how easy it is to bypass

[navylife59]

Yeah, but they are not always after your car, just part of it or what is inside. There are also the smash and grab guys, they are the worst. A shotgun is needed to thwart them a-holes. To these guys, that chirp-chirp sound is music to their ears. You would'nt have an alarm if you did not have something nice to protect.

Your best bet is disable arming/disarming chirps. Buy a dual-zone proximity sensor. A multistage would be best. Hook the outer zone (secondary) output to your carhorn relay. When that zone is being penetrated, it will beep your horn twice. If that zone is continually active, then it will beep the carhorn again with longer tones (more urgency). If the inner (primary) zone is activated, then the carhorn sounds continuously. With dark window tint, those SOB's think that there is someone in the car honking the horn. Also, neighbors and passerbys pay more attention to carhorns than car alarm sirens. You can have your door, shock, and glass breakage sensors trigger the siren.

[chicotunner07]

yeah, that sounds a lot better, do u think i could adapt it easily to the current system i have? I read once about this illegal alarm in europe that acctually shoots flames out of the bottom of the car, didnt acctually see any pictures, but heard people talkin about it, now that would be awesome, theres nothing really that can be done to prevent smash and grab a-holes

[tcchillin]

i agree. alarms as nice as they may be only do well if they can do something other than make noise. if someone wants to steal it they will. the cool ideas i would have for a functional car alarm would be very very illegeal. but if interested google trunk monkey.

[chicotunner07]

hahaha i saw that one, its hilarious, i want one,

[peruano85]

i need to put the sensor on the hood on my car..even though i have Viper

[navylife59]

You can easily add this to any setup. With relays and some caps you can make this work with just a sensor, and a switch.

[chicotunner07]

yeah, ill probably do that later on, i have other things i want to blow money on first!!