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Blackened Heads and Tails

Discussion in 'Paint and Body' started by Jamlive08tC, Nov 24, 2008.

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    Jamlive08tC New Member

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    Hey all new guy here :) Full time 19 yr old student, worker with little money to work on my tc lol.

    I have a navy blue 2008 scion tc. 5 speed of course. I have decided to start working on it and the coolest upgrade I have seen online is blackening the heads and tailights. How would I go about doing this and what is the price cost. Will it affect visibility and attract police? Also kind of a noob question. My neighbor said I should take my heat shield off my header. Will this affect my car in any way? One last tidbit, has anyone gutted the cat below the header and was there a noticeable difference?
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    sorry i can't help you on the last two questions but when i have my titan, i blacked out the head lights so i have an idea of what to do....not the tail lights.

    take your head light out completely. Then get a head gun or a blow dryer and apply the heat to the glue that bonds the face of the head light to the housing that holds the bulbs in. It should seperate after a few mins of melting the glue away. Once this is done, go to the hardware store and get some metallic HIGH HEAT black spray paint. The store salesman should know waht you are looking for. Apply a coat evenly to the inside of the light and put them on a cookie sheet and put them in the oven, at a temp of what the can says to do. Then get a strong apoxy, i can't remember the name of what i used but the salesman helped me with that too and just put them back together.

    it comes out sweet. If i can't find my pics, i will post them
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    Ok. Well, you have to remember that anybody that sells the tint will say that it is "for off-road and show use only". It may attract the police because the amount of light coming from your headlights and taillights will be less than factory. I don't think taking the heatshield off will do anything, period. What would be the point of gutting the cat? If you're just going for the sound, cut it out and go with a mid-pipe. Either way, you probably won't pass emissions.
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    navylife59 Super Moderator

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    Redneck4csa is correct. If you are going for a cat delete, then do it the right way and get an aftermarket or custom exhaust. All but one aftermarket header gets rid of the primary cat. The secondary cat can be deleted or a high-flow metal unit can be installed. The more you take out fo the stock system the better the flow. The bad side to a dual cat delete (except turbo) is your exhaust will be super loud, actually traffic violation absurdly loud. You really need to decide now on what you want performance (N/A, Turbo, S/C) or sound quality to make the right decision on parts.

    Taking your heatshield off exposes one ugly header and allows heat to freely radiate in the engine bay. With the backpressure from the stock exhaust, the OEM header runners run very hot. The heat shield forces that heat down and away from your alternator, radiator, intake, and hood.
    You can try to with VHT high-temp paint or send off to be ceramic coated. Most people opt just to replace with an aftermarket header.

    Remove, not pulverize. That way, you can return it to stock if need be.
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    Well, Thank You very much, Navy. But, I guess it really all depends on what kind of exhaust sound you want. I know that from alot of the aftermarket exhausts that I have heard, you get that high raspy pitch in the upper rpm band. I HATE that sound. It sounds like a tin can. Sorry to anyone who has one, just my :2:. From what I understand, this sound mainly comes on after you put headers on the car. However, from what I've heard, you can put a glasspack before the muffler and that will smooth it out alittle bit. What do you think, Navy? Plus, you eluded to his original post about blackening out the taillights and headlights :D
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    navylife59 Super Moderator

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    Yeah, this really should have been 2 separate threads. I can split this off and drop the exhaust question into the proper section if Jamlive08tC does not mind. We actually have stickies that cover pretty much all exhaust topics so this is not a big deal. I will say that if you listen to a clip of an axle-back, check to see if the OEM header is still installed. Chances are that it is as an axle-back is usually the 1st mod as it is an easy install and acoustically/visually gratifying. Also, manufacturers do their sound bytes on the OEM for better sound quality. I had to use 2 12" topspeed resonators to curb my open exhaust. I get a ringing noise that comes out when the ECM has me out of tune (VVT-i I think). I would suggest running one large resonator or 2 of different sizes. It has to do with acoustical harmonics. Read the exhaust stickies and you will know what I am talking about.

    Ok for the tinting, I would suggest using a laminate overlay like from Xpel Technologies or The Official Directory for Clear Bra Installers! Find a clear bra installer and protect your paint today!. I use the Xpel product on all of my vehicles. Quality product and comes in yellow, clear, smoke, black, and blue. The blue with super white bulbs (Sylvania Ultras, PIAA, Luminics, Hella and the like) give it a real faux HID look. It fooled Tony Cheung for a moment. They have the added benefit of protecting your headlamps from road debris damage and pitting. Expensive but well worth the moolah. Go ahead, go out and spend those Obama/Washington dollar coins that you're getting for Christmas.:)
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    Hi! I'm a full time college student too =] ... I definitely almost bought a dark blue 08 tC but instead got the Waveline Pearl. Anyway ... If you want to play with the head or tail lights, you can smoke them. I'm not sure if that's what you're going for but a friend of mine and I are doing it really soon. He did it to his 06 tC and it looked stunning. He used a product called NightShades. The only thing to keep in mind with smoking lights is each state has a different standard for inspections. I live in VA and I know that here, they can't be completely black. Light still has to pass through the lights. On top of that, you have to be very careful and apply it evenly. When we did his, we took the lights out of the car, painted them with a clear coat, then sprayed the NightShades and let it fully dry before applying any more coats, and then we did another clear coat. Find out your state's standards for how much light still has to pass through the light before continuing with this idea. If you don't want to mess with sprays, there is also this like sticky film crap that you can either order or go to a window tinting place and stick on the lights. The beauty of that is that you can peel it off eventually.
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    navylife59 Super Moderator

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    Good info. Good thing about the peel-n-stick is that a policeman/woman will probably let you off the hook if you can easily correct the issue on the spot. That is one reason that I carry stock light bulbs for the ones that I have upgraded to. I think that most people have like the VHT Nightshades spray. Most critical, besides the prep work, is the final application of the clear coat. Without it, the paint won't last long.
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    Oh yeah, absolutely! You need the clear coat otherwise you'll be doing touch ups really often. I heard that you can also go to some tint places and get a custom sized tint film to fit head or tail lights. I have seen pictures of head or tail lights that are completely blacked out and I know that is not street legal in Virginia. I've heard that the film is really annoying to mess with though because it is really sticky and sticks all over you and by the time you get it on the car, all the adhesive gunk is all over you instead of the car.
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    Another film is Lamin-X. The Xpel Techs that I have installed was no mess. It was just as easy as applying window tint. You uses 50/50% alcohol/water to activate. I have yet to remove but it is supposed to be easy.
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    Hmm. I've never heard of that. I'm going to have to look into it. Is it expensive?
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    i just found out that blackened lights are not street legal in VA and you can get a ticket AND fail inspection. Yay =[

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